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LearnThe desk and the superday

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Basic, lesson 1 of 3

How a markets desk makes money

A desk earns mostly from clients: the bid offer it charges, the fees and financing it provides, and how well it manages the inventory clients leave behind. Directional bets are a smaller share than outsiders assume.

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1Where the revenue comes from

A bank's markets division sits between clients who want to buy and clients who want to sell. It rarely finds both at the same moment, so it uses its own balance sheet to take the other side and holds the position until it can offload or hedge it. The price of that service is the bid offer spread.

LineWhat it isExample
Bid offerBuy at the bid, sell at the offer, keep the gapQuote a bond 99.50 / 99.60 and trade both sides
CommissionsA fee for executing a client order without taking riskWorking a stock order through the close for a few cents a share
FinancingLending cash or securities against collateralRepo, prime brokerage, stock lending
StructuringBuilding a tailored product and hedging itA note that pays if an index stays in a range
Inventory P&LGains or losses on positions held between client tradesA bond bought from a client that falls before it is sold
The main revenue lines on a markets desk

Worked example

Earning the spread

  1. 1You quote a corporate bond at 99.50 bid, 99.60 offered.
  2. 2A pension fund sells you 10 million at 99.50.
  3. 3An hour later a hedge fund buys 10 million from you at 99.60.
  4. 4Gain: 0.10 points on 10 million face = 0.10 / 100 x 10,000,000 = 10,000 dollars.

10,000 dollars for standing in the middle for an hour, as long as the price did not move against you in between. That condition is the whole job.

Check 1

You quote 101.20 / 101.30 on a bond, buy 5 million on your bid, and sell 5 million on your offer before the price moves. What did you make, in dollars?

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2Principal and agency

On a principal trade the bank becomes the buyer or seller and owns the risk until it unwinds. On an agency trade the bank only executes for the client, at whatever price the market gives, and charges a commission. Principal pays more and can lose money; agency pays less and cannot lose on price.

Check 2

A client sends an order to buy 200,000 shares at the day's volume weighted average price, for a commission. Who carries the risk if the stock rallies during the day?

3Reading a day's P&L

Desks split each day's P&L so they can see what actually earned money. A common split is client P&L (the edge captured against mid when the trade was done), carry (what positions earn or cost to hold, such as coupon minus financing), and market moves (the change in the value of inventory).

Worked example

One position, three lines

  1. 1You buy 20 million of a bond from a client at 99.50 when mid is 99.55. Client P&L: 0.05 / 100 x 20,000,000 = +10,000.
  2. 2Overnight the bond earns 1,500 more in coupon than it costs to finance. Carry: +1,500.
  3. 3Next morning mid falls to 99.40, 0.15 below where you marked it. Market P&L: -0.15 / 100 x 20,000,000 = -30,000.
  4. 4Total: 10,000 + 1,500 - 30,000 = -18,500.

The trade was a good client trade and a bad position. The split tells the desk head which problem to fix: pricing or hedging.

Check 3

Client P&L is +25,000, carry is -2,000, and market P&L on inventory is -8,000. What is the day's total P&L?

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Watch for

When asked how a desk makes money, start with clients. Candidates who answer 'by making good bets' tell the interviewer they think the bank runs a hedge fund.

Terms in this lesson: Repo, Hedging.

How this gets asked in an interview

Asked early in many first rounds, often as a fit question. A good answer orders the sources: client flow first, then inventory management, and only then any view.

  • How does a trading desk make money?
  • What is the difference between principal and agency trading?
  • If a desk loses money on a day it did a lot of client business, what happened?
Drill Behaviorals, ten questions

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